Legacy backups and Clone?

Hi, just started using MainWP Pro, giving it a test run before upgrading to a yearly or lifetime license. So far great! Cloning is a little puzzling though since it suggests that it only supports the the legacy backup feature (for larger sites that fail the site to site process), and I can’t seem to find that option. Also I see from some comments that you’re phasing out support for that. Can you point me to the best way forward for this?

Thanks!
David

Hey @Thingly

Welcome to the MainWP community.

You can find information about the Clone from Backup feature and how the Legacy Backups fit into it here:

We currently don’t plan on removing the Legacy Backups from the MainWP Dashboard.

However, we also don’t have plans for adding any new functionality related to it, nor do we have current plans for an equivalent feature.

Please feel free to make a suggestion about this on our feedback site. That way, others can vote for it, letting us know which features our users want the most. https://feedback.mainwp.com

Thanks for the super quick reply, I missed the part about enabling it in settings, thanks for that.

I’m still missing something though. When I toggle enable legacy backups on in settings and click Save Settings, it reverts to being turned off. Under “Select primary backup system,” the only option is API Backups, whether I’ve saved settings or not. Is that dropdown meant to update to allow legacy backups as an option?

After I enable Legacy Backups and save, the toggle stays on and Native backups becomes the selection in the dropdown menu.

For you, the toggle gets disabled each time you save the settings?

Can you please post the community system report from your MainWP Dashboard for review? The report is located in your Dashboard under Info → Server, on the top right of the page.

Be sure to use the button like the one below; this button hides all your private information:

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Pressing the button auto-copies the report to your clipboard then just paste it in a reply here.

Sure, here’s the report. I see that the cURL Timeout is much lower than recommended, could that be an issue?


### WordPress Check                Required                                               Detected                                     Status   ###

FileSystem Method                  = direct                                               direct                                       Pass        
MultiSite Disabled                 =true                                                  true                                         Pass        
WordPress Memory Limit             >=64M                                                  256M                                         Pass        
WordPress Version                  >=6.2                                                  6.4.3                                        Pass        

### PHP                            Required                                               Detected                                     Status   ###

cURL Extension Enabled             =true                                                  true                                         Pass        
cURL Timeout                       >=300 seconds                                          40                                           Warning     
cURL Version                       >=7.18.1                                               8.2.1                                        Pass        
OpenSSL Version                    >=OpenSSL/1.1.0                                        OpenSSL/3.1.1                                Pass        
OpenSSL Working Status             Yes                                                    Yes                                          Pass        
PCRE Backtracking Limit            >=10000                                                1000000                                      Pass        
PHP Allow URL fopen                N/A                                                    YES                                                      
PHP Disabled Functions             N/A                                                    No functions disabled.                                   
PHP Exif Support                   N/A                                                    YES                                                      
PHP IPTC Support                   N/A                                                    YES                                                      
PHP Loaded Extensions              N/A                                                    Core, PDO, Phar, Reflection, SPL, SimpleXML, Zend OPcache, apache2handler, bcmath, bz2, calendar, ctype, curl, date, dba, dom, enchant, exif, fileinfo, filter, ftp, gd, gettext, gmp, hash, iconv, imap, intl, json, libxml, mbstring, memcached, mysqli, mysqlnd, openssl, pcre, pdo_mysql, pdo_pgsql, pdo_sqlite, pgsql, posix, pspell, session, shmop, soap, sockets, sodium, sqlite3, standard, sysvmsg, sysvsem, tidy, tokenizer, xml, xmlreader, xmlrpc, xmlwriter, xsl, zip, zlib            
PHP Max Execution Time             >=30 seconds                                           120                                          Pass        
PHP Max Input Time                 >=30 seconds                                           120                                          Pass        
PHP Memory Limit                   >=256M                                                 768M                                         Pass        
PHP Post Max Size                  >=2M                                                   256M                                         Pass        
PHP Safe Mode Disabled             =true                                                  true                                         Pass        
PHP Upload Max Filesize            >=2M                                                   256M                                         Pass        
PHP Version                        >=7.4                                                  7.4.33                                       Pass        
PHP XML Support                    N/A                                                    YES                                                      
SSL Extension Enabled              =true                                                  true                                         Pass        
SSL Warnings                       = empty                                                                                             Pass        

### MySQL                          Required                                               Detected                                     Status   ###

MySQL Client Encoding              N/A                                                    utf8                                                     
MySQL Mode                         N/A                                                    NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION                                   
MySQL Version                      >=5.0                                                  5.7.44-48-log                                Pass        

### Server Configuration           Detected Value                                      ###

Accept Content                     text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Charset Content             N/A                                                    
Architecture                       64		 bit                                               
Gateway Interface                  CGI/1.1                                                
HTTPS                              ON                                                     
Memory Usage                       45.35 MB                                               
Operating System                   Linux                                                  
Request Time                       1709928648                                             
Server Protocol                    HTTP/1.0                                               
Server self connect                Response Test O.K.                                     
Server Software                    Apache                                                 
User Agent                         Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/122.0.0.0 Safari/537.36

### MainWP Dashboard Settings      Detected Value                                      ###

Abandoned plugins/themes tolerance 365                                                    
Basic uptime monitoring enabled    No                                                     
MainWP Dashboard Version           Latest: 5.0.1 | Detected: 5.0.1 Pass                   
MainWP legacy backups enabled      No                                                     
Maximum number of pages to return                                                         
Maximum number of posts to return                                                         
Maximum simultaneous install and update requests                                                       
Maximum simultaneous requests      4                                                      
Maximum simultaneous requests per ip1                                                      
Maximum simultaneous sync requests                                                        
Minimum delay between requests     200                                                    
Minimum delay between requests to the same ip1000                                                   
Number of connected sites          2                                                      
Optimize data loading              No                                                     
Plugin advanced automatic updates enabledNo                                                     
Primary backup system              MainWP Legacy Backups                                  
REST API enabled                   No                                                     
Site health monitoring enabled     No                                                     
Theme advanced automatic updates enabledNo                                                     
Use WP Cron                        No                                                     
WP Core advanced automatic updates enabledNo                                                     

### Extensions                     Version                                                License                                      Status   ###

MainWP Clone Extension             5.0                                                    Active                                       Pass        

### Plugin                         Version                                                Status                                    ###

MainWP Dashboard                   5.0.1                                                  Active                                       
Security Optimizer                 1.4.12                                                 Active                                       
Speed Optimizer                    7.4.6                                                  Active                                       

cURL Timeout shouldn’t be a factor here, but I would recommend resolving it as instructed here: Resolving System Requirement Issues - MainWP Documentation

Can you temporarily deactivate the Security Optimizer and Speed Optimizer plugins and try re-saving the settings again with Legacy Backups toggled on?

Thanks - still no luck. I tried deleting both of those plugins completely too, and checked that no server caching was enabled. When the form submits, is the update completely server side, or could any of this be because of browser settings? I’m using Brave, I can try disabling security setting etc. if that could possibly help.

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Hi, just got an email saying that I hadn’t replied to this topic so adding a bump here — I’m guessing my last reply didn’t get tallied by the system as a response for some reason. Thanks!

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Sure, please try using a different browser, preferably in an Incognito/Private window without any browser extensions loaded.

If the issue persists, please open a private Help Desk ticket so we can collect some additional information & investigate further.

And please refer to this Managers thread by its URL in the ticket.

We’ve identified an issue relating to Legacy backups and API backups, and the fix for it was released in a previous version of the MainWP Dashboard.

The @Thingly’s issue was resolved, and we appreciate you bringing this to our attention.

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